[birding] Re: [obol] Re: Eicher Rd Quarry (Linn County) Access
Question - RT Loon, Redhead continue
adamus7 at comcast.net
Sat Mar 31 19:29:11 PDT 2018
The first time I birded there, I did so because no house nearby, no No Trespassing sign, and next to road. I did not return until Tom posted about the agreeable owner. If Knife River owns, it may be that the guy Tom talked with has an easement with them or vice versa. I occasionally bird another place where both Knife River and resident gave me permission but not in writing. Perhaps that might change if too many birders ask permission...which is unfortunate, but I can understand KR not wanting to open to everyone or having to screen dozens of individual requests.
Is there any truth to rumor that some birders have visited other parts of that lake?
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-------- Original message --------From: Tyler Hallman <hallmanator at gmail.com> Date: 3/31/18 7:09 PM (GMT-08:00) To: tom at barbless.com Cc: Jenna Curtis <thejennabird at gmail.com>, MidValley Birds <birding at midvalleybirding.org>, obol at freelists.org Subject: [obol] Re: Eicher Rd Quarry (Linn County) Access Question - RT Loon, Redhead continue
Has anyone actually discussed anything with Knife River? I feel like that's the big question. The sheriff asked if someone from Knife River could send his office an email saying it's ok, or he'd just go on assuming that it isn't.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 6:26 PM <tom at barbless.com> wrote:
Hi All, As I mentioned in my 12/9/2017 eBird report, I was scoping from the mid-east berm when an older gentleman stopped his pickup truck mid-road, turned his engine off, and firmly asked what I was doing. I was pretty quick to say “I’m birding… (long uh-oh pause)… are you the landowner?”, and he said “yes”, and when I asked if it was ok for people to bird here, he said he didn’t mind that. He did tell me that he was still upset that some hunters that had left trash earlier in the day, and that he often has to deal with trash and ill behaviors. After he drove off, and left me to bird more, I spent an hour picking up a lot of garbage, including some things that struck me as drug paraphernalia. It was sad. During my 25+ years as a fly fisher in Montana and Oregon, I’ve had many cordial to some hostile encounters with landowners over stream access. As the world fills up with people, I appreciate that landowners struggle to allow access and yet deal with the crap that often happens. I’ve seen landowners ok with very occasional access, but as things become too popular, they feel compelled to cut things off. Specific to the quarry, I’ve heard one second-hand story, and I suspect others based on reports, of birders viewing birds in and around the residences, which IMHO is dicey. IF Knife River owns the Quarry, and no accommodation can be made for birders, I would hope that they could post no trespassing signs. --tg From: obol-bounce at freelists.org <obol-bounce at freelists.org> On Behalf Of Jenna Curtis
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:11 PM
To: birding at midvalleybirding.org; obol at freelists.org
Subject: [obol] Eicher Rd Quarry (Linn County) Access Question - RT Loon, Redhead continue The Red-throated Loon at Eicher Rd. Quarry outside Albany continues today, along with at least one male Redhead, a male Common Goldeneye (on far side by sand pile), and several flyover LB Dowitcher. We were unable to relocate the Western/Clark's Grebe or Tricolored Blackbirds previously reported.While sitting in the car at the short roadside pullout nearest the eBird hotspot (approximately https://goo.gl/maps/UkkAJWhAMkz), a county sheriff arrived and politely informed us we were parked on private property and needed to leave. I am personally unfamiliar with this birding location. I assumed most birders park at that pullout and bird the quarry lake from the top of the berm alongside the road (based on the Hotspot location here: https://ebird.org/hotspot/L3067371). However, after learning that roadside area is the private property of Knife River corporation, I am unsure how birders are otherwise able to view the south end of the lake, where the Hotspot pin is placed. Could someone with more experience with that area please share where birders commonly park and bird the quarry lake? Since this appears to be a popular and regularly visited location on eBird, I'm sure someone has a better idea of public access at this location than me! Thanks very much for the help. Happy birding, Jenna
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